Rose J. Percy– educator, writer, poet– talks to use about the concept of the Ruler’s Church vs the People’s Church. This is a must listen to understand how the Church can be both an institution of liberation and suppression.

Links for Rose

Rose’s website

Rose’s main instagram

Links for material mentioned in the podcast

Becoming an Anti-Racist Church by Joeseph Barndt 

Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman

Stand Your Ground by Kelly Brown Douglas

Reading the Bible From the Margins by Miguel A De La Torre