Well, well, well if this isn’t a phrase I’ve heard 28,749,878 times (an exaggeration, but you know what I am talking about.)

We’ve all heard it, the word gets out that you call yourself a feminist, and without fail someone will come from nowhere and tell you that you can’t be that. That you, apparently, don’t exist because what you are is so counter to the things they’ve been taught.

But since you, dear reader, do exist as a Christian and a feminist, I would like to give you some counter-arguments to those who are willing to listen.

But first, a word to the wise, if a person is not willing to listen to you and demeans you in any way, the conversation is NOT worth having.

I’ve learned this the hard way, by giving so much of me to these discussions only to be belittled and demeaned. Meanwhile, the conversation seemed to have little to no effect on the party with the opposing view.

So… when you have this conversation, make sure the person is willing to treat you and your thoughts with respect, otherwise, it might be best to find a safe place to have these discussions.

Ok, without further ado, let’s begin.

The Definition of Feminism

The first thing that we should do when we hear this is to define the word feminist for them, you know, the one in the dictionary. I’ll save you some googling, here it is:

fem·i·nism
/ˈfeməˌnizəm/
noun

There are plenty of examples of women’s leadership in the Bible

Ok, so at this point, people may say something like, “Well, Jesus may have liked women, but the Bible is very clear about the roles of women in the Bible.”
And what they are really saying is that they want a softened version of Jewish patriarchy, where a woman is confined to roles in the house and must obey and submit to her husband. This is called complementarianism: and it forbids women from preaching, teaching men, or essentially being a leader. Complementarians do this by saying that the role of women is to take care of children and serve her husband, while the role of a man is to protect, provide, and pursue.
The problem with this is that it is limiting to both men and women. There are many women who have giftings to lead, and many men who have giftings to nurture and manage a household. This prevents men and women from using their gifts and instead fits them into roles they may or may not be suited for. I think when God created us with gifts, God intends for us to use them. (1 Peter 4:10-11)
So if a woman has the gift of leadership she should use it, regardless of what culture tells her. Let’s look at some women in the Bible who live in highly patriarchal cultures but still chose to use their giftings and leadership skills regardless of what their culture said.
The following list is of first-century women ministers and church leaders mentioned in the New Testament (sourced from Rachel Held-Evan’s blog): Philip’s daughters (Acts 21:9), Priscilla (Acts 18:26; Rom. 16:3-5, etc.), Phoebe (Rom. 16:1-2), Junia (Rom. 16:7), possibly Chloe (1 Cor. 1:11), Euodia and Syntyche (Phil. 4:2-3), Nympha (Col. 4:15), Apphia (Phlm. 2), “the chosen lady” (2 John 1), “the chosen sister” (2 John 13), and probably Lydia (Acts 16:40), etc.
In the Old Testament, there are also plenty of examples. First and foremost being Deborah, at the beginning of Judges 4, the text reports that “Deborah, a prophet, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.”  She lead Israel! What a clear example of women’s leadership.
 
But there is also Miriam: Micah 6:4  “I brought you up out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. I sent Moses to lead you, also Aaron and Miriam.” Huldah was a trusted prophet in 2 Kings 22:14-20. Esther disobeyed her husband and saved a nation. Ruth broke societal norms with Boaz and became part of Jesus’s line. Jael and plenty of other women also break with submission to do God’s will, because they are submitted not to men, but to God.

What Causes Abortions

If still they are unconvinced about women’s leadership in Bible and hung up on the abortion issue (this seems to be thrown out quite often), education in what causes abortion may be helpful.
Women get abortions because they are in desperate circumstances: abusive partners, living in poverty, losing a job if they have a baby, no medical insurance… the list goes on and on. Don’t get me wrong, I think abortion is terribly sad and would never get one myself, but even that statement is said with a lot of privilege and assuming that I have a pregnancy that would not cost me my life. I have a loving husband and am not in an abusive situation. I have enough financial cushion that I would be able to provide for myself and the baby, and I have health insurance.
I guess I am just saying I know what desperation can do, more than that, I cannot imagine the agonizing decision some women face when it comes to whether she or the baby will survive.
Statistically, you know what reduces abortions? Easier access to birth control, condoms, better health care for mothers and children, condoms, paid time off for mothers, condoms, better resources for victims of domestic abuse, condoms, counseling services, social programs, etc. You’ll notice I threw condoms in there a lot because women are expected to endure countless side effects from birth control in order for a man to have a marginally more pleasurable sexual experience. Also, men need to take responsibility for their part in abortion rates.
However, it seems that many in the pro-life crowd are actively against using their tax dollars to help women or their unborn children in the ways mentioned above.
In fact, abortions fall the most under democratic presidents and fell a full 13% under Obama. Easier access to birth control and more affordable health care can make all the difference in the world for vulnerable women.
Sadly, desperate women will get abortions whether or not it is legal. In fact, many women die while trying to perform abortions on themselves. Why not help women so they don’t find themselves in desperate positions?
There was a wonderful list of ways that pro-life Christians could fight abortion rates I found online, they are below:
Either way, feminists fight for many things that reduce abortion. As a society, we should not be so focused on the symptom of a broken system, but on the system itself.

Extremism in Christianity

Finally, if they choose to point to the worst people in feminism to base the whole movement off of, remind them that the Christian movement has their fair share of atrocities committed by extremists:
This is to mention nothing of Christianity’s history of the Crusades and inquisitions, indulges, and slavery that was justified in the name of Christianity.
Now hear me, I am not arguing that Christianity is evil. Shoot, I am a Christian myself. My only argument is that we cannot define another movement by it’s worst, without doing the same for our own.
Feminism has a bad rep in many circles, it’s true, but so does Christianity. At their cores, I think both are good and holy movements. It’s why I call myself a Christian Feminist.

A list of resources.

So that’s it, an explanation against every form of Christian Feminism so far. If you want to hear more, I host a podcast called Faith and Feminism that discusses all of these ideas and more. I would love to see you there!

Also, there are plenty of amazing people who talk about this in-depth, please check out resources like:
A Year of Biblical Womanhood by Rachel Held Evans
Powerful and Free by Danny Silk
Jesus Feminist by Sarah Bessey
Half the Church by Carolyn Custis James
Why Not Women by Loren Cunningham
Marg Mowczko’s blog
Biblical Christian Egalitarians
Here’s also a list of prominent Christian Egalitarians as taken from Wikipedia:
  • Linda Belleville, author of Women Leaders and the Church (2000)
  • Gilbert Bilezikian, author of Beyond Sex Roles (1985), Christianity 101 (1993)
  • Christians for Biblical Equality
  • Greg Boyd, theologian and Senior Pastor of the Woodland Hills Church in St. PaulMinnesota, author of Myth of a Christian Religion: Losing your Religion for the Beauty of a Revolution (2009)
  • Shane Claiborne
  • Bob Edwards, author of Let My People Go: A Call to End the Oppression of Women in the Church (2011)
  • Mary J. Evans, author of Woman in the Bible (1984) and co-editor of The IVP Women’s Bible Commentary (2002)
  • Gordon Fee, contributing editor to Discovering Biblical Equality (2004)
  • Frank Stagg, co-author of Woman in the World of Jesus (1978)
  • George Fox
  • Kevin Giles, Vicar of St. Michael’s Church in North Carlton, Australia, in the Anglican Church of Australia; author of Jesus and the Father: Modern Evangelicals Reinvent the Doctrine of the Trinity (2006)
  • Stanley Grenz, author of Women in the Church (1995)
  • Rebecca Merrill Groothuis, co-editor of Discovering Biblical Equality (2004); author of Good News for Women (1996) and Women Caught in the Conflict (1997)
  • Trevor Huddleston
  • Paul King Jewett, author of Man as Male and Female (1975) and The Ordination of Women (1980)
  • Craig S. Keener, author of Paul, Women and Wives (1992)
  • Catherine Clark Kroeger, co-founder of CBE; co-editor of The IVP Women’s Bible Commentary (2002); co-author of Women, Abuse and the Bible (1996), I suffer not a Woman (1998)
  • Scot McKnight, Karl A. Olsson Professor in Religious Studies at North Park University; author of The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How you Read the Bible (2008)
  • Roger Nicole, Emeritus Professor of Theology at Reformed Theological SeminaryOrlando, Florida.
  • Roger Olson Professor of Theology at George W. Truett Theological Seminary of Baylor University
  • Carroll D. Osburn, Professor of New Testament Language and Literature at Abilene Christian University; author of Women in the Church: Reclaiming the Ideal (2001)
  • Philip B. Payne, author of Man and Woman, One in Christ (2009), New Testament Scholar and professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (North West)
  • Ronald W. Pierce, co-editor of Discovering Biblical Equality (2004)
  • Aida Besançon Spencer, author of Beyond the Curse – Women called to ministry (1985)
  • Ruth A. Tucker, co-author of Daughters of the Church (1987)
  • William J. Webb, author of Slaves, Women and Homosexuals (2001)
  • Ben Witherington III, Professor of New Testament Interpretation at Asbury Theological Seminary; author of Women in the Earliest Churches (1988) and Women and the Genesis of Christianity (1990)
  • F.F. Bruce, Biblical Scholar and professor of Biblical Criticism and Exegesis

*husband’s math that was verified by several other mathematicians, here is his explanation: Ok here is the math and sources behind the stats. First you take number of rapes and attempted rapes each year from DOJ 2015 statistics. 321500/year in the US. 90% of all victims are women. so 289350 women/year. You then you take US census data and find that that equates to a 0.1741% chance for a woman to be raped or attempted to be raped each year. You take the annual chance and extrapolate over a lifetime (I considered a lifetime to be 72 years because all the rape statistics are for women 12 and older and the US female life expectancy is 84 years.) that extrapolation brings a woman’s lifetime chances to 11.791%… Ok for the men. You start again with the annual number of rapes and attempted rapes against women of 289350. The RAINN statistic of 6/1000 rapists are incarcerated. Which gives you 1736.1 incarcerations/year. Their were 5 studies that I found between 2008 and 2016 that ranged in sample size from 100 cases to a years worth of police data from LA. The average % of false reports was 4.52%. So if the justice department is (really low estimate) 60% effective at not sending innocent people to jail. you end up with 31.389 false incarcerations for rape per year. Taking US census data again that gives a man a 0.000019657% chance of being falsely incarcerated. You extrapolate that over the adult lifetime of a man (18-80) and a man has a 0.001219% chance of being falsely incarcerated. And that puts a woman’s chances at 9673 times more likely to be raped or attempted to be raped than a man is to be falsely incarcerated for rape. This was the exercise I did to get an estimation, feel free to challenge my logic or thought process but that is how I arrived at those stats.